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The rumors of a a rift between Jack Antonoff and Taylor Swift have been greatly exaggerated. At least according to Bleachers leader Antonoff, who visited Howard Stern’s SiriusXM show on Tuesday (Apr. 28) to plug his band’s upcoming fifth studio album, Everyone For Ten Minutes, and swat away those whispers about why he wasn’t involved in the production and songwriting of Swift’s most recent album, last year’s The Life of a Showgirl.

“I only feel grateful for the work that has happened,” Antonoff said of his decade-long association with Swift, which began on her 2014 1989 album and has spanned 11 albums in total before she re-teamed with Max Martin and Shellback on Showgirl. “Maybe it’s only because I write my own songs and sing them, but I understand that need to have different collaborators and jump around.”